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PIETTA Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver

The Remington Model 1858 was one of the most powerful and rugged single-action revolvers of its day. Easily removable, replaceable cylinders made reloading extremely fast. The highly realistic Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver delivers that same power with its blued steel construction, polished brass trigger guard, octagonal barrel and walnut grips. Barrel length: 8”. OAL: 14.5”. Wt: 2.75 lbs.
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I GOT 1858 PIETTA REVOLVER AFTER I GOT MY 1851 BRASS FRAME AND IN MY 1858 I SHOOT 33 GRAINS OF FFF-P OF PYRODEX WITCH IS EQUIVALENT TO THE SAME IN FFF-G BLACK POWDER AND I SHOOT THE 454-140GRAIN ROUND BALL AND HAVE NOT HAD A BIT OF TROUBLE OUT OF IT AND I AM GOING TO GET ANOTHER BY THE END OF THE YEAR ALL I REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS WITCH WAY DO I TURN IT TO GET THE BARREL OFF
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as I said before to you leave the barrel on its important. CHeck with a gunsmith about this if you need more answers.
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what is wrong

the two 1858 pietta revolvers I am talking about are the same 44 calibers with two cylinders one will only hold 35 grin and the other will hold 40 and I shoot pyrodex p fffg and that is the same thing as fffg black powder and I use a 454 hornady ball now how come one will only hold 35 and the other 40 and I shoot them all day long and it will not hurt them
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The Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver uses a maximum load of 35 grains of FFFg black powder or equivalent. For best accuracy, the manufacture recommends loads of 20-30 grains of FFFg black powder. It is recommended to use a .451" diameter ball in this revolver.
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I HAVE TWO 1858 44CAL.BY PIETTA ONE CYLINDER WILL HOLD 40GRAIN BUT THE OTHER CYLINDER WILL ONLY HOLD 35GRAIN 40 WILL OVER FILL IT WHAT IS WRONG

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The Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Revolver, Item # IK-210082,
uses the FFFG black-powder as per recommendation from the manufacturer.
Due to liability issues we are not able to recommend the use of different
powders or load amounts.
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on my 1858 pietta revolver i ask witch way to turn the barrel to take it off for a better cleaning you said it was not desinged to come off

what if I want to put another barrel on it has got treads and they do sell them
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I think removing and changing barrels is a dangerous thing to do. The rest of the gun is not designed for barrel change and I think you're asking for big trouble.
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witch way do i turn the barrel on my 1858 revolver to take it off

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as I said before to you leave the barrel on its important.
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either way will work but personally I always have better luck taking them out and reinstalling from the left (starboard) side of the revolver, others have better luck the other way. Might depend on if you are right or left handed? The biggest thing is to roll it out with the pistol just going into safety with the cylinder lock being down inside the frame.
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witch way do i turn the barrel on my 1858 revolver to take it off

i would like to take the barrel off so i can get a better cleaning
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I would highly recommend you NOT take the barrel off your 1858 . It is important you leave it alone . Just pull the cylinder never mess with the barrel and its threading. The gun cleans easily with the cylinder out anyway. use q tips or a soft wire brush (brass crush not steel) to clean the little nooks and crannies.
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Do not remove the barrel. It is not designed to be removed for cleaning. If you wish to thoroughly clean your Remington, field strip the entire firearm, wash all except the grips in hot soapy water using a bristle brush or old tooth brush, thoroughly rinse in clean water, thoroughly dry with towels, and thoroughly oil all surfaces before reassembly. That is the penalty for shooting black powder weapons.
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What is the difference between a new army .44 and an army .44?

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I believe the 1858 New Model Army should be the Remington revolver in .44 caliber.

When I hear "an army .44" you could be talking about a Colt 1860 Army revolver. All depends on how you word it.

The 1858 New Army Remington has the top strap over the cylinder. The 1860 Colt Army is open top with a wedge holding the barrel on.
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New Army is a Remington 1858 Army is a colt 1860 (or some 1851's as well but many of those were called Navy not army).
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The were two completely different handguns from two different companies. The New Army 1858 was originally produced by Remington. The 1860 Army was produced by Colt. Pietta manufactures replicas of both guns.
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Which conical bullet to use with the 1858?

I recently purchased this firearm and it is an absolute TACK DRIVER right out of the box. Amazing pistol and a pleasure to shoot.

I cast my own round balls at .454 for this one, and it's VERY accurate. I am interested in finding a conical bullet that would work. A buddy of mine has tried a couple, but they are almost impossible to get started down the cylinder when loading.

Any of you serious cowboy shooters know which one to use with the 1858 Remington?
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The Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Revolver, Item # IK-210082, uses a .451" .44 caliber bullet. Cabela's does not sell such conical bullets, but they can be molded with the Lee Conical BP Revolver Bullet Mold, IK-214300.
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I use the Lee Bullet Mold Item: IK-214300 and have no problem with seating.
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I normally use a lee mold in 200-220 conical they fit perfectly (.452)
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Can I get 400 ft lbs at 50 yards with this?

I am thinking of using this gun to start pistol hunting deer. I have to have atleast 400 ft lbs at 50 yards to legally hunt with it in my state. Is that possible with this gun?
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It's possible to get 450 ft lbs 15 ft from the muzzle with Pyrodex P with .454 RB ( 141 gr.) and 200 gr conicals.
(And these loads probably aren't recommended so I will not go in to what they are.)
I 've never chronographed at 50 yards. A ballistics calculator could probably tell you that. I'd check with your State Fish and Game agency and they will probably tell you if you can use it or not ( and if so advise on a proper load.).
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NO - with a 142 grain round ball the velocity will be about 1000 fps which gives only 300 ft lbs at the mussel. Even a 225 grain conical ball will be just below 400 ft lbs. The energy at 50 yards will be less of course.
Go to YouTube and search for "Ruger Old Army Round Ball vs Conicals" the gentleman who produced this series has some very clear metrics on the black powder revolvers.
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At 25 yards possibly, at 50 yards "Probably Not". I would check with the Manufacturer in this instance. And to prevent "Bambi" from suffering I'd use a standard handgun something like a .357 or a .45 or a 9mm.
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How to fix loading lever dropping while shooting?

I have had this revolver for a few years now and really enjoy shooing it. One problem I seem to have is that the loading lever will disengage from the end of the barrel while shooting and then it drops the plunger into the empty cylinder locking up the mechanism. Has any one else experienced this and what did you do about it?
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Just slip an elastic over the barrel and loading lever while you are shooting. It works.
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IS the end clip for the lever intact? I would think a trip to a local gunsmith would fix you right up and cheaply as far as that goes.
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Mine too!
I am going to order a new attaching screw as they are soft metal and it may be bent..
Temporarily, I use a small piece of black electricians tape to help hold the lever in place. It dosen't show much and holds the lever in place while shooting.
What a shape this problem is!
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How does it stand against time?

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These are well made. I have the s&s and blue steel models. I shoot them regularly and have for many years. Take care of them correctly and they will last a very long time.
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As in all things depends on the shooter not the gun. THey will last basically forever if you do proper care and maintenance. Maybe pick up a spring repair kit just in case but in 30 years of shooting piettas i have never had to fix one. especially the 1858's. They are great and durable machines.
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I have had my Remington 1858 for 8 or 9 years now and I shoot it a lot! It has never fallen out of timing or had any other issues at all. It is just a great, solid revolver and I expect I will be shooting it 25 years from now without a single problem. Pietta really makes a wonderful reproduction!
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Cylinder movement?

Just got my 1858 on Friday, haven't gotten a chance to shoot it, as I can't find any powder or caps available. But I was wondering, being my first revolver, is there supposed to be movement of the cylinder?

It seems I can move mine slightly up and down, and side to side. Is this something I should be concerned about? I'm worried about it lining up correctly with the barrel.

Thanks
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mine moves a little also does not effect usability 20 rounds no change in movement as a note my S&W 629 has a little also1979 and a few thousand rounds
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A slight amount of play is probably fine. My Piettas do.
( Even my cartridge revolvers have a little).
As long as the cylinder bolt is in the slot and there is a slight gap between the barrel and cylinder ( that doesn't completely close) when wiggling it up and down. Shine a light down the barrel
( WHEN IT'S UNLOADED !!! ) if you are unsure and it will be obvious if it is not lining up. Comparison to other revolvers would be beneficial.
Note: On the 1858's I like the mainspring heavy enough that the hammer, when in a cylinder safety notch, will not slip out of the notch when rocking the cylinder with moderate to heavy pressure. This will eliminate most ignition problems. It's best to not dry fire with the cylinder installed. These are quite good guns.
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no should not be able to move it up and down at all
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The cylinder in my gun fit too tightly to the barrel and the frame right below the barrel. This caused fouling that would not let the cylinder turn properly. I think it is a design flaw from Pietta because original guns have a lot of back and forth play in them. I did a lot of filing and now have the problem solved. I was able to get German #11 caps which fit fairly well. American # 11s fall off and # 10s are hard to find. Shoot it (without putting your hand in front of the cylinder) and see how it works, then start filing if needed. I like the gun, just shouldn't have to tune it so much.
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What is the max load with Triple se7en FFFG for this?

I understand that Triple se7en FFFG is supposed to be volumetrically equivalent to Black Power FFFG. But some say Triple se7en is hotter than Black Powder. What is the max Triple Se7en load for the 1858?
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30 grains
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i have used 25 grains up to 35 grains with no problem at all
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Due to liability issues, we are not able to recommend any specific loads. We are only able to recommend that you follow a load manual produced by a reputable manufacturer.
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LOOK, when you start messing with loads "Other Than Black Powder" you're asking for the handgun to remove your arm 'UP TO THE ELBOW". Personally I like both of my arms, my eyes, etc. etc.
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Is FFFFg ok to use in my 1858 .44???

Received the '58 .44 as a surprise. Too impatient to wait and I had FFg and FFFFg but no recommended FFFg. I used theFFFFg and was happy and successful with every load.

What is the issue in using FFFFg? Do I really need to find FFFg?
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FFFFg powder is to be used ONLY for priming a flintlock. FFFFg will produce much higher chamber pressures than FFFg. You may get away with it for a while, but it definitely harder on the revolver. It will loosen it over time and may cause a catastrophic failure. Please only use FFFg or FFg if you must use something else.
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FFFFG was used to improve performance in the old paper cartridges, Civil War era. It worked well because the paper cartridges required a light load of powder to fit well in the cylinder.
FFFFG was not used for heavy loads as it can cause potentially dangerous pressure spikes when too much is used.
Google "pistol powder", do your research, and decide what you are comfortable with - after all, it is you who will live with any consequences, not I.
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danger will robinson lol. 4f powder is only for loading teh flintlock side gates. the powder is much finer than fff so using say 25 grains of it compared to 25 grains (by volume) of 3f will give you a too hot load and the pressures can hurt you and your gun not to mention whoever is standing around if the cylinder or barrel ruptures. use ff powder if you must but NEVER 4f.
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Using any other powder other than FFFG in the Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Revolver, item number IK-210082, will cause dangerous pressure spikes and will void the warranty.
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What is the difference between the Pietta and Uberti 1858 Revolver

What are the main differences between the Uberti and Pietta 1858 New Army .44 cal revolver? Can they take the same loads?
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I would like to add that, in a close comparison of my 5-year old Pietta and my friend's 5-year old Uberti, the fit and finish of the two guns is also comparable overall. Some elements of fit and finish are better on the Ubuerti and other items are better on the Pietta. Pietta has come a long way since a decade or two ago!
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Umberti has better fit and finish although my Pietta is very well made. Same loads.
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A friend of mine and I both purchased 1858s about five years ago. He got the Uberti and I got the Pietta. Both pistols appear to be equivalent, overall. However, the parts usually cannot be swapped, due to fit variations.

I'm not sure about any "official" load limits (I've noticed that the manufacturers' and Cabela's documentation on black powder loads often differ), but I see no reason that these revolvers cannot safely shoot identical loads.
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The Uberti 1858 New Army .44 Caliber, Item: IK-216415 differs from the Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Revolver, Item: IK-210082 because of the cosmetic features. Both of these revolvers that we offer will use the same loads.
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Pyrodex loads in manuals: Grains vol. or grains wt.??

Checking out the loads in the manuals that came with my '58 Rem., I see that the max load recommended for Pyrodex P is 28 gr. while for fffg Black it is 35 gr.

I use Pyrodex in my front-stuffers and have always understood that Pyrodex and Black are exactly equivalvent when loaded BY VOLUME. IOW if 35 gr. of black is OK, then 35 gr. of Pyrodex should be too, if loaded BY VOLUME.

However, Pyrodex weighs less than an equivalent volume of Black. Even if a measure set to 35 grains is filled with Pyrodex, it will weigh approximately 25% less than 35 grains.

I normally load by volume (using a measure# and not weight. Must my volume measure be set at #or below) the lower limit for Pyrodex listed in the manual?

Being an engineer, I obsess about these things...forgive me.
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use the same throw with any sub powder as you do with fffg I shoot 35 pyrodex P somthging about grain size and volume it works out the same
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lol forgiven. Always by volume. even different mfg of bp you will find variations in actual weight. I think moisture content etc might play apart as well as formula. When making mine I have two different formulas i use at different times depending on what i have on hand and whether i want to make more charcoal or not. The two formulas weigh differently but volume wise I get close specs either way I go . Just let go friend lol forget weight n go with volume n you won't go wrong lol. I do understand your deli ma though.
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Due to liability issues we are not able to recommend any specific loads. We are only able to recommend that you follow a load manual produced by a reputable manufacturer.
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Use volume for Pyrodex ( it has the same volume as black powder ).
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Can this pistol, or any black powder revolver, be loaded with a small charge of lead shot?

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i have never heard of this but i think you mite be able to by useing wax but i do now Y a person would
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The LeMat would be your ideal choice for using lead shot, by virtue of the 20 ga underbarrel.

Firing shot in any rifled barrel isn't very accurate, due to the spin rifling imparts on a cluster of shot. As it leaves the barrel it will rapidly spread. Loading an over-the-powder wad, shot, than an over-the-shot card to hold it together would lose its' charm after only a few repetitions.

Any residual wadding left in the barrel after firing a shot load would present a safety hazard for firing subsequent shots without checking to ensure the barrel is clear.
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Just put a wonder wad below and above the shot - it works fine, I've done it many times in an 1860 - a .44 cal ball weighs about 141 grains, I doubt you could get this much shot between two wads, though. Weigh some out and have fun.
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wouldnt recommend it. Ask the mfg and see what they say.
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Personally I WOULDN'T, It just isn't SAFE.
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If i put a convertion cylynder in this gun for 45 colt long will it handle the 950fps/460ft.lbs that the hornady 225gr fts's produce?

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This is a very good black powder revolver, emphasis on "black powder." The conversion cylinders are acceptable if you stay in the "Cowboy load" or black powder equivalent loads. Modern .45 LC loads are a disaster waiting to happen in bp revolvers w/conversion cylinders.
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According to all the information I can find, Cowboy cartridge loads should be just fine (steel frame only). To be sure, contact the manufacturer of the conversion cylinder.
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jacketed ammo is a no-no, and that ammo is a bit strong for this firearm. for the money you'd have in the remington and the conversion cylinder, you could buy a ruger blackhawk which would stand up to just about anything you'd want to use in it!
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i have a cartridge conversion for mine in 45lc and have not shot the hornady 225gr but i have shot a 255gr bullet with 35gr of triple 7 which runs close to 900 fps .i feel sure it will handle the 225. i loaded a 230gr with 30 gr of triple 7 and it shot it better than the 255.i also loaded the cartridges with 5gr of clays with round ball which shot better than any of thr above. but it shoots the best with 32gr of triple 7 with the round ball.
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I would have to say NO....it seems to me like you want to get your arm "BLOWN OFF" & YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH, DON'T DO IT, IT'S SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Difference between 1858's?

What is the difference between item # IK-210082 and IK-216068? Both are steel frame 1858's made by Pietta. Thanks
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the started kit that's all
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-6063 is what you would normally pay for gun + starter kit.

-082 normally comes without anything but a gun-in-a-box, but recently Cabelas must have excess inventory of the starter kits, so they're throwing them in for free.

Both are the same gun and normally the starter kit costs extra Since free is better - get the $229 #-0082 before Cabelas discontinues the bargain...
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One has the "Starter Kit With It" & the other doesn't , the Starter Kit includes a Revolver Black Powder Measuring Cup, Revolver Black Powder Flask, a Revolver Nipple Wrench, 30 Wonder Wads, 30 Wonder Seals & 30 Revolver Lead Round Balls. THE OTHER DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS KIT.
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The latter includes a starter kit it would seem.
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no difference same gun. difference is what comes with it
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round ball size

What is the best round ball size to use in the Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Revolver 451 or 454 ?
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I have found both work well, however the 451 take a little less effort to press into the cylinder when using the load lever on the pistol and may cause less stress and wear on your gun, if using the separate hand press they seem to be about equal.
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The Cabela's tech was right, ALSO when you look at the BALL you'll see "Mold Marks" which for Accuracy Purposes should be Smoothed down to the balls surface, also there's a "Raised Circle" caused by the pouring of hot lead into the mold, this should also be smoothed down to the balls surface. It Sure Helps in Accuracy if you're shooting at game. .451" IS THE PROPER ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!
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I personally prefer the .454 because it gives a better seal and delivers better accuracy
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I have tried both size balls and the more accurate, for me, is the .454 ball. It fits perfectly, shaving off a minimal ring of lead when I load the revolver. You just have to shoot it enough to know which ball YOU like the best. It is definitely the .454 for me.
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We do recommend that a .451" diameter ball be used with the Pietta Model 1858 New Army .44 Caliber Revolver, item number IK-210082.
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