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Both the trigger guard and the frame are brass on the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver.

The frame is brass and that means you should not try to convert this to cartridges.

The frame is also brass.

Frame.

No they do not, they are not considered firearms by the BATF. You can have them sent directly to your home.

they should be like any other black powder purchase, and it is a replica so I doubt it.

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I began shooting real black powder over 45 years ago & just recently got some 777 to compare with Pyrodex & American Pioneer Powders.

In general, Black Powder fouls quicker than any of the substitutes. I've fired about 100 rounds each of Pyrodex, American Pioneer & also 777 thru a .36 Remington without any need to clean in order to maintain function.

I've found the biggest contributing factor to fouling build-up is the use of too much ball lube. It's been trendy for the past several decades or more to recommend gooping up the cylinders with grease after seating bullets in order to supposedly eliminate flashover (firing an adjacent cylinder before it comes into battery). I can't find any historical reference to this precautionary procedure & an old-timer at my range 40 years ago said he never greased the cylinder as a kid.

With all this in mind, a light application of the proper ball lube is necessary, but the composition of it seems most critical. Petroleum-based lubes & bearing grease seem to foul much quicker, although paraffin is said to be an exception. I've used either plain Crisco, or various mixtures of tallow, crisco & beeswax with much cleaner results.

If you use the pre-lubed felt wads, you can eliminate need for ball lube altogether, or simply put a paper wad over your powder charge in each cylinder, add a little lube, and then seat your balls. Less lube accumulation will attract & hold less fouling & should extend your range time between any necessary cleanings.

You can make a lifetime supply of paper wads - for .44 cal, 1/2 sheet of toilet paper folded first into a square, then fold all corners inward, seat over the powder charge with a tapered dowel. Add a little grease, and then seat the bullet.

I have been using Pyrodex Triple F and have had no problems other than an occasional cap hanging up after firing.

no ffl needed for black powder pistol

There are no permits needed to own the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver in your state. Since it is a black powder firearm, it does not need to go through an FFL dealer, we can ship it right to your house.

I would say that as long as the grips you are using are designed for that particular model, then you should have no major difficulty except perhaps a little bit of light sanding for a perfect fit.
Good luck to you.

one screw that is bolted through the grip, very easily removed

The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver (210086) has grips that are removed simply by removing a screw.

The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver we sell uses the .451 lead ball. We do not sell the conversion kits to modify it for cartridge use.

Yes they work fine. They fit slightly looser then a #10 but work perfectly. I use both all the time since the store is usually low or out of #10's.

# 11 caps will work fine but you also might wish to try some # 10 caps as well. Sometimes the #10s will fit tighter and that can help as the concussion of firing the piece will sometimes knock caps off. Makes you wonder how the old west gunfighters managed.

It is recommended that a size #10 percussion cap be used with the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item #21-0086.

No-They are different and they both use a different set of notches in the chamber to rotate them.

The cylinder for a Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver (210086) in not interchangable with any other models. Cabela's offers spare cylinders for the the Pietta 1858 New Army .44.

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No, the 51 will fit the 1860 but not the 58 .The 58 is a remington replica the 51 and 60 are colt replicas

Absolultely. Nice tight rifling. It shoots better than some modern handguns. You have to find the right load for you. I shoot .451 swagged Hornaday balls with a lubed wad between them and 22 grains of Tripple 7.

The barrel is rifled. It shoots better than some modern firearms and is a blast to shoot. Use #10 Remington caps and .451 swagged balls to start with and have a great time.

yes but straight lines inside not a spiral and they sure do shoot straight.

Shine a light into the bore and you'll see the lands & grooves or in other words - yes.

Yes these pistols have a rifled barrel with a 1 in 36 rate of twist.

Pyrodex works just fine in any black powder fire arm .

I have been told that you can use it, but all I have used is triple 7 and I measure out my own powder. I was told that you get better ignition off the triple 7 instead of the powder

No, do not use pellets, they are TOO big of a load. Your owners manual strongly urges you to use no more than 25 grains. The pellets are made for muzzle loading rifles and are 50 grains each so USE ONLY Pistol powder. If you want to fill up the empty chamber you may use cream of what between the powder and the ball.

I use 30 grain Pyrodex pellets with perfect results. The only difference I seem to notice is the gun gets alot more black powder residue than using a 25 grain loose powder charge. The 30 grain pellets fire fast and every single time. Makes reloading simpler and the power will drop a Rhino. Very good product.

Maximum load for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver is 25 grains so Pyrodex® .44/.45 Caliber 30-Grain Pellets Item: IK-213724 should never be used in it.

The pellets are usually for steel frames that shoot heavier charges. With the brass frame I would shoot the loose powder to keep the pressure lower and make it a more pleasant shoot. Cabelas recomends 20 grns or less and I was using 18 grns. It still shot high with the lower charge and I expect it would still shoot well out to 50 yards or more.

Min loose powder charge 15 grains for simple target practice and accuracy up to 30 for shooting game. Can be used to hunt with very accurate pistol with quite a bit of power. You will be surprised. However higher amounts of use with the larger powder charges will wear out brass framed revolvers quicker. If you plan on shooting them every so often and at the excellent price they sell for I wouldn't worry about it for they will last a long time as long time just keep them clean.

There is not a minimum load for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver but, the maximum is 25 grains of FFFG powder or equivalent. The pistol does provide enough knockdown for small to medium game but, you will want to check your local regulations on firearm restrictions before you attempt to hunt with it.

you better know you can.I have taken seven deer with average range from 20 to 42 yards out max.But you must put some time on the range.It shoots 2in high and 1in to the left at 25 yards and you got to have a steady hand.So put some time on the range and get to know your target

Max recommended charge is 25 grains. This is due to the brass frame of the pistol.

24 gr Pyrodex P produced a noticeable kick, but gradually reducing to 18 grain did not reduce accuracy under 50 yards at all. Did add filler (cream of wheat, but i'm told corn meal is as good) to bring the ball forward and get good compression of the charge. Will try to back down to 15 gr to see if the accuracy is still OK since i'm only punching paper. Also may try Pyrodex RS since the local shops tend to stock it more often. Less complete burn - lower pressures, bigger flame...

Bear in mind, this is a brass frame. It can be subjected to normal stress but do NOT exceed 25 grains of powder. Since it is black powder, it burns slower than modern smokeless powder so it is imperitive that you clean it a lot more often. It is easy to field strip and if you buy the ratcheting nipple wrench at Cabelas, easy to clean and lube the nipples. I use boiling hot water with a little dish soap to scrub things up and then lube the moving parts with bore butter when dry. Happy shooting.

15-30 grain pellets or loose Pyrodex powder.

The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver is rated for a maximum load of 25 grains FFFg black powder or equivalent. Best accuracy will be found by using a reduced charge.

I just bought the same gun. CCI #10's go on snug, but seem to stay put. Most say the #11's need to be pinched. Since chainfire seems more likely from the back through a missing cap than the front to me, tighter is OK with me.

Remington #10 only. I find the CCIs don't fit the nipples that came with my 1851 Rebel Colt clone.

We suggest using the #10 percussion cap with the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver.

I use the Remington No. 10's with no problem at all.

10 fits better a little tighter but 11 will work fine. I use both.

I own one of these snazzy revolvers and the .451 balls shoot splendidly from it. If .451 balls seat well enough to seal the chambers and don't fall out, use them. No more than 25 gr powder should ever be loaded into those brass framed revolvers. If the .451 balls are loose, then I would give the nod to the .454s, and then pose the same scenario as in my first sentence.

Seating the ball should shave a very fine perfect lead ring off the ball. This indicates a good seal to help prevent cross fires. If it goes in too hard and shaves alot of lead off the ball it will make for higher pressures and probably a more flattened ball. Push too hard to load and squish ball. Harder on loading lever also. You kinda got to experiment with different size balls for each gun, though I think I use the .451 in most of my .44's.

Use the size that is stamped on the barrel of the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver. Any other size is not recomended.

as long as 451 shaves the little ring of lead thats what i would use it will lenthen the life of ur brass frame pistols im thinking 457 will be really tight but would probably work thats going to be real hard on ur loading lever yes ive killed several of these pistols over the years with the brass frames by loading them with too much powder i killed one the first time i fired it it chain fired n both rounds on both sides of the barrel n the round in line all went off at the same time so seal it good n make sure caps are pinched a bit so they dount pop off when fireing thats what caused it to happen to me scared the out of me too

I have found that it shoots better and easier to load with the .451 balls. Its just the little bit of lead that is shaved off when pressing the ball in, that hold it in place

works well with .451 or .454 30 gr max

Manufacturer recommends size .451 swaged round balls for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver.

mine's content with 451, but will take 454 with a little more lever pressure.

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The .451s work fine. You can go to .457 but most folks find the .451s work just fine. I am able to get 4" groups at 25 yards with .451 balls, 22 grains of Tripple 7 and a wonder wad. You may also want to swab a bunch of bore butter around the business end of each chamber prior to firing. I have never had a chain fire but it only takes one to ruin your day.

.454 ball is what you want. I have 25yrs firearms expierence and what you want is a snug fit when you plunge your ball it should be a little tough, in fact it should leave a slight ring of led around the end of the chamber(just wipe away before shooting). This ensures no air pockets and sure seal! Have fun and be safe, always be responsible and always be aware of all your surroundings at all times when shooting...2AMatt

.451 works best. A nice snug fit enabling very powerful accurate shooting.

Yes it can be reloaded without removing the cylinder and you don't need tools there on the gun

The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver can be loaded without removing the cylinder.

The cylinder does not have to be removed. The stand that holds the pistol upright is nice but I built my own. I doubt the guys back then disassembled them every time they reloaded them. Now the 1858 remington new army is different as the cylinder can be removed without disassembly and a loaded spare popped right in there.

It is made to load with out taking the cylinder out, you just stand it up with one hand and oerate the lever with the other. I made a couple loading blocks to hold the guns strait up so they are easier and quicker to load at the range. You can see examples on line. Cabela's has a very good video on line showing how to load and one on how to clean, check them out if you have not. With practice it gets easier.

either way, you can use the packer made on to the pistol or you buy a loader stand. On the Colt model it is best to load on the pistol, the Rem. model the Cyl. removes really easy.

The design of the Revolver includes all of the built in tools needed to load the cylinder chambers with no dis-assembly. The only reason to remove the cylinder is to do a thorough cleaning and lubrication.

Yes, Pryodex is fine. AAA, about 15 -20 grains. Use lighter loads on brass frames.

Pyrodex Select is not suitable for use in blackpowder revolvers. You would need to go with Pyrodex P powder.

Pyrodex in the round cans .44/.45 tablets work the best. and no R/S is for rifle or shotgun, you'll need the powder with the P on it and a Green lable

Pistol powder is granulated for pistols so it is best to use PPP black powder or a black powder substitute like Pyrodex or Tripple 7. Cabela's sells both. You want pistol powder, see the drop down menu on their web-site.