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PIETTA Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver

Patterned after the original made with a brass frame to conserve the South’s limited supplies of steel. Although designated as a Navy pistol, it saw heavy use among Army officers who favored .44-caliber firepower. It features a blued octagonal barrel; plain blued cylinder; tough, attractive walnut grips; and brass trigger guard. Reloads quickly with a spare cylinder (sold separately).  Barrel length: 7-1/2". Overall length: 13-1/4". Weight: 2 lbs., 9 oz.
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can this BP revolver be converted to use the 209 primer

I would like to convert to 209 primers because the # 10 caps are as scarce as Hens teeth.
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Cabelas at this time does not offer a 209 conversion kit for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, Item # Ik-210086.
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It would be an impractical conversion, and I believe there is not enough room on the revolver to do it safely. If you can't find any #10 caps, buy #11s. When you find them, buy a thousand, it will take a very long time to go through them.
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how long can i keep my 1851 loaded

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I am experimenting with black mz load.. In the house 3 weeks.. I will post results.. Black MZ should allow more time loaded... The stuff is very moisture resistant...
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Is this considered a "relic"?

Is this handgun considered a relic firearm? Does this firearm require an ATF collectors license to obtain?
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolvers, Item # IK-210086, are classified as "Antique/Black Powder" firearms. Please consult local law
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Do you have to cover each ball in the cylinder with bore butter before shooting?

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When reloading the cylinder on the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item # IK-210086, it is necessary to seal every chamber with bore butter before shooting to guard against ignition of any of the chambers from sparks that might be released when firing the gun. This is a very important safety issue.
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Long ago when I first began shooting Cap and Ball revolvers, everyone claimed that it was necessary to cover the seated balls in the chambers with grease to prevent chainfires. Crisco was the grease of choice at the time. Consider that if the ball you seat is tight enough to shave off a ring of lead as you seat it, there will be no lead-to-chamber wall gap that would allow a spark to set off an adjacent chamber.

Since then it has been suggested that loose fitting caps on a nipple allow flashover from nipple to nipple, causing the chainfire. Whenever you hear a shooter telling about how its' necessary for them to pinch a loose (too big) cap to prevent it from falling off, they're a prime candidate for flashover/chainfires.

Bore Butter is better suited for use as a patch lube for shooting patched round balls in a muzzle loading rifle.

A better solution is to use lubed felt wads between powder and ball. If you plan to be out on a warm day carrying your revolver loaded, consider first warming up the felt wads and pressing them between paper towels to remove excess lube that could otherwise work into the powder load when compressed.

I use either the felt wads, or more often a square of toilet paper that has been folded up around a tiny dab of beef tallow + beeswax ball lube mixture. I pack it over the powder with the ball ram, and then seat the ball.

It doesn't take much lube to be effective, and using too much of it will lead to quicker fouling build-up.
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how long can i keep my 1858 loaded before shooting it

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We do recommend that the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item number IK-210086, never be stored while loaded. The powder can and will absorb moisture in the air causing issues with rust and hang/failures to fire.
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As long as the powder is kept dry, and free from ball lube, grease or oil contamination, it could be kept loaded indefinitely. Black Powder arms and cannon projectiles left from the Civil war or earlier, have been discovered loaded, and the powder was still viable.

The main disadvantage to keeping a black powder firearm loaded is the possibility of corrosion forming due to moisture getting into the powder.

A tight-fitting ball, and either shellac, nail polish or even properly applied beeswax at the cap/nipple junction is mandatory to seal it all up.

Unless you can ensure a long-loaded black powder arm has dry powder within, I'd not rely on it for defensive purposes, due possibility of misfire.
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What size cast bullet?

Many .44 black powder revolvers use .456 cast bullets - will that also work in this revolver?
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Recommended Lead ball diameter for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item # IK-210086 is .451 inch.
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is there a way i can convert this to cartredges or regular .44 bulets?

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No. The brass frame will not support stress of regular 44 bullet. You need a 44 caliber revolver that has a all metal frame.
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Yes, look for a Conversion Cylinder. They usually cost more then the gun so I don't think they are worth it. You will be able to shoot .45 LC cowbow loads. Personally I don't think it is worth the expense.
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Can this gun be shot using Pyrodex® .44/.45 Caliber 30-Grain Pellets sold by Cabelas?

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Pyrodex® .44/.45 Caliber 30-Grain Pellets Item # IK-213724 can be used in any .44 or .45 black powder pistol which can handle 30 grain loads. Please check the owners manual to verify the max load the pistol can handle. Do not use rifle pellets in a revolver. Maximum load: 25 grains FFFg black powder or equivalent, For best accuracy, the manufacturer recommends loads of 20-25 grains of FFFg blackpowder in the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver - Free Starter Kit Included For a Limited Time, item # IK-210086.
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While Pyrodex P performs well in revolvers, the pellets are pretty pricey if you plan on doing any amount of shooting. Better to Use either Real Black Powder, or Pyrodex P and a powder measure. 25-27 grains of 3F BP or Pyrodex P should give you optimum accuracy.
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Initial cleaning?

1.) Other than wiping away the factory grease, is it recommended that the pistol be cleaned before it is shot for the first time? If so, to what extent?

2.) Also, I noticed that sometimes it is difficult to get the pistol to lock in the full-cocked position. I pull the hammer to the rear but it then goes to half-cocked when release. I have to pull hard when this happens to get it to stay cocked. This does not happen every time. The pistol has not yet been fired.
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Personally, I completely disassemble, clean and inspect EVERY firearm I buy prior to a trip to the range. Pietta has precision equipment to fabricate all their gunparts, but the assemblers may not always be of the same precision.

Disassemble down to a pile of individual parts, noting the size and placement of all of the screws. and wipe off the packing oil, then reassemble. For the first time out, the only part I lubricate is the cylinder arbor, and the threads on each nipple to allow for easier removal after firing.

Machine crud/metal chips or rough surfaces may make it hard to cock the hammer in your case. After disassembly, inspect for burrs and rough edges on all parts, especially the hand (part attached to the hammer that engages the rear of the cylinder).

A fine touch up with 600 grit wet/dry emery paper may be needed to remove burrs and rough edges; otherwise, running it dry/without any lube will help wear in and smooth rough parts.
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver – Free Starter Kit Included For a Limited Time, item # IK-210086, should be taken apart and completely cleaned prior to the first use. It should also be fully lubed as specified prior to re-assembly to make certain that there is no remaining shipping residue. Failure to take these steps might be the reason for the gun's cocking problem. If the problem persists, it may be necessary to have it checked out by a local gunsmith or returned for a refund or exchange.
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Is it normal to have some play in the cylinder and the frame of this gun?

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Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, Item: IK-210086, should have very little play in the cylinder.
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There really should not be any end play or side play. If there is you need to have it checked out to see if there is any problem with the arbor .
I have shot mine for 2.5 years and there is no play to speak of. Shoot no more than the recommended amount of tripple 7 or black powder and you should be fine. I like 22 grains of Tripple 7 behind a lubed wad and .451 ball #10 Remington caps on my Reb .44.
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If the gun was a second hand buy dont shoot it. The brass may have been stressed if someone loaded to much powder. Also make sure all the screws are tight. As for the cylinder there should be very little play. If this is a second hand buy check ur blast shield to make sure theres no marks in it where the cylinder would have peened against it. If its a new gun just send it back.
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That Depends' on "if the gun is in Cocked position" or
How it has been treated? Such as How many times' it has been taken apart? , Has it been overloaded with too
much Powder, and has it been used as a Hammer? ,
Steel Frame or Brass Frame?. Your Question is not
complete? How old is this Gun?, And YES there is play
in these guns' to a very small amount! But How much play?, If it is cocked and the cylinder moves' side to side
someone has spun the Cylinder too many times!.
NEVER SPIN A CYLINDER OF ANY GUN! db.
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Normally there is some slack in the cylinder when the revolver is uncocked, When the hammer is fully cocked the slack should come out. At least thats what mine does.
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i would say no.mine is tight
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Can I use ffg powder in my Pietta 1851 .44 revolver?

If so, would I use the same load as if I was using fffg?
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I have used equal amounts of FFG and FFFG Pyrodex powder in these revolvers. 25 grains by volume is my usual load for the Pietta 1851 .44 Revolver.
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No, use only 3F black powder.
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I have used FFG in the 1851 before, it takes the same load because ie. 25 grains by volume of FFFG is the same as 25 grains of FFG by volume
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Yes. I measured 20 g's volume (which really came closer to 15 - 17 g's actual using the startyer kit measurer) FFG Pyrodex for my first 5 loads. BANG! SMOKE! How cool that was.

I have learned that the F's refer to texture of the black powder and its substitute. The more F's, the finer the powder and it's ability to ignite quickly and burn evenly.
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no, FFG is a slower burning powder made for rifles. The FFFG is what you need..
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it says to use 25 grains powder but I use 30 grains solid.no problem.
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What is the easiest way to get the pin out for takedown?

I watched videos on youtube and they just punched it out. I was banging it with a mallet and then the back end of a screwdriver but it would not budge. I was afraid I would break the gun.
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, Item: IK-210086, will be difficult to take apart the first few times. Use a non marring non metalic punch to assist in the take down.
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I hold the gun firmly in both hands place both thumbs on the pin and press till the little clip gives then just pull it out from the left side
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take screw out. and use blunt tool to push out pin.gun is made very good and tight.
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What accessories do I need?

This will be my first black powder gun. Other than the obvious (balls, caps, powder, and wads) what other accessories do I need? How about cleaning accessories including oil and lube? Is there a list of item numbers I could look up so I may order everthing at once. Thanks
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Soap and water (simply green is excellent) and any good gun oil is all you need besides elbow grease.
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Powder horn (or some such small powder holder)
powder measure
Capper (option device to assist in placing percussion caps)
Nipple wrench (to remove percussion cap nipples to aid in cleaning)
A 44 calibre pistol cleaning kit
Windex (this is used to stop the corrosive black powder salts from rusting the gun)
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nipple wrench and pick and i clean with hot soapy water and dry it then use sovent and spray it with light coat gun oil check in 3or 4 days if need wipe with oil again
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Order a Cabela's 2013 SHOOTING mag! Order what You Need By Item #! Cabela's #1 In Outdoor and Shooting Supples'! db.
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You need a bag full of stuff..
Nipple wrench
cleaning kit for Black Powder
Cleaning patches
Rags
Nipple pick
Revolver capper
Screwdrivers that fit each screw on the gun, for when a cap get all jammed up in the works and you have to get it out.
Maybe Bore Butter..I prefer to use a lubed wad and tight ball..the bore butter on the 1851 seems to just gunk up the wedge a lot faster making it a pain to get out after 30 rounds or so.. some may argue but you can try it and make your own decision on that issue..
Can of compressed air is handy to have in the bag..not going to explain further but you will find yourself using it a lot if its in the bag...
Some Rem Oil or similar oil to oil things up after a quick field cleaning.. some cleaners do both.. try several methods and use what you like best..
A water proof ammo box is nice to keep your caps and powder in when the weather is moist..(that kind of depends on where you live.)
Spare cylinders are handy.
A loading stand is like a 3rd hand when loading.
And I bring a .22 cal revolver with me to the range..( that's so I can keep shooting when I know the next cease fire will be sooner than I can load up another go around in the Black Powder gun ) ^_^
You will probably find more gadgets and tools you like as you get into it...just have to keep trying new things until you get YOUR method and system dialed in ....
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For the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item # IK-210086, the best accessories I recommend would be the Cabela's Black-Powder Revolver Starter Kit, item # IK-216053 and the Cabela's Black-Powder Field Cleaning Kit, item # IK-216136.
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Do you have to use the wads in this revolver because I don't in my new army revolver?

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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver with the Free Starter Kit that is Included For a Limited Time, item # IK-210086, can be shot either with or without a wad. It is a matter of personal preference.
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Yes, always use a revolver wad over the powder before you load the ball.
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Ive found that wads are needed for charges under 22 grains, In my personal 1851 i use 25grains>Ball>BoreButter
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No. You don't HAVE TO. But you may WANT TO, knowing that it assists in wiping the chamber wall of black powder traces into the load. I have faith that this is a step in preventing a possible chain fire.
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No you don't need to use wads. They do help keep the bore lubed however. If you shoot the recommended 25gr load you shouldn't need a wad, less and you may. If you. Shoot 30 or 35gr you definately won't need them.
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver – Free Starter Kit Included For a Limited Time, item # IK-210086, can be shot either with or without the use of wads. It is a matter of personal preference.
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can remington #11 caps be used on the 1851 Pietta confederate .44 caliber model?

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It is recommended that a size #10 percussion cap be used with the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item #21-0086.
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Better to use #10, that will give you the best fit.
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Yes they work fine. They fit slightly looser then a #10 but work perfectly. I use both all the time since the store is usually low or out of #10's.
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# 11 caps will work fine but you also might wish to try some # 10 caps as well. Sometimes the #10s will fit tighter and that can help as the concussion of firing the piece will sometimes knock caps off. Makes you wonder how the old west gunfighters managed.
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Yes! "But they will not fit the nipple tight enough!
Also they will fire around the outside of the nipple!
May cause Damage to the shooter!
I DO NOT RECOMEND USING # 11 percussion Caps'!
They are for long guns' only! db.
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Yes ive used #10 and #11 caps in my 1851.
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I don't recommend using #11 caps..they are too big .Even if you pinch them, they sometimes won't fire..sometimes get blown off unfired nipple when another cylinder fires, and they blow apart more and tend to fall into the workings of the gun causing unwanted delay at the range...I have some revolvers that have #11 nipples..not sure if Cabela's sells those nipples as I've never had a problem finding either size caps so Ive never asked..
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Are these single action, double action, or both?

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The 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver is jest single action and a lot of fun.
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These revolvers are single action only.
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Single Action Only
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Single action.
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They are single action
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver – Free Starter Kit Included For a Limited Time, item # IK-210086, is a single action revolver.
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Triple 7 Fouling

I've been using 777 3f and my 1851, after just two loads, the cylinder won't freely rotate anymore. I'm forced to constantly lube between loads to ensure good action. Just wondering if this is normal for BP or if it is perticular to 777.
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I began shooting real black powder over 45 years ago & just recently got some 777 to compare with Pyrodex & American Pioneer Powders.

In general, Black Powder fouls quicker than any of the substitutes. I've fired about 100 rounds each of Pyrodex, American Pioneer & also 777 thru a .36 Remington without any need to clean in order to maintain function.

I've found the biggest contributing factor to fouling build-up is the use of too much ball lube. It's been trendy for the past several decades or more to recommend gooping up the cylinders with grease after seating bullets in order to supposedly eliminate flashover (firing an adjacent cylinder before it comes into battery). I can't find any historical reference to this precautionary procedure & an old-timer at my range 40 years ago said he never greased the cylinder as a kid.

With all this in mind, a light application of the proper ball lube is necessary, but the composition of it seems most critical. Petroleum-based lubes & bearing grease seem to foul much quicker, although paraffin is said to be an exception. I've used either plain Crisco, or various mixtures of tallow, crisco & beeswax with much cleaner results.

If you use the pre-lubed felt wads, you can eliminate need for ball lube altogether, or simply put a paper wad over your powder charge in each cylinder, add a little lube, and then seat your balls. Less lube accumulation will attract & hold less fouling & should extend your range time between any necessary cleanings.

You can make a lifetime supply of paper wads - for .44 cal, 1/2 sheet of toilet paper folded first into a square, then fold all corners inward, seat over the powder charge with a tapered dowel. Add a little grease, and then seat the bullet.
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I have been using Pyrodex Triple F and have had no problems other than an occasional cap hanging up after firing.
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It may be the 777. I shot strictly Goex Pinacle, and had no issues. I coated the cylinder pin, or arbor, with TC Bore Butter prior to shooting, and I put about 75 rounds through it.
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Triple 777 Is NOT The Corect Propellant for this Reproduction!. Do You Wan't to Blow Up Youre Gun?
This Is a Brass Frame Reproduction for Black Powder
ONLY or the equivalent FFg Pyrodex! You are lucky
that The Cylinder has not Exploded! Get Pyrodex!.
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Hodgdon does not recommend the use of 777 in brass-framed revolvers. 25 grains of Pyrodex P is considered max for a brass frame. on my 1851 it starts getting stiff around 6 cylinders shot but still revolves fine so something has to be wrong for sure. i would make sure nothing is bent first and make sure the spent percussion caps are not getting stuck in the action.
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Can I use HODGDON .44 CALIBER REVOLVER PELLETS

Can I use HODGDON .44 CALIBER REVOLVER PELLETS in the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate .44 Cal. Revolver
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With the brass models you might want to stay away from the pellets as they are 30 grain,the manufacture suggests to use no more than 25 grain.It would probably be ok but not every time.To be certain check your manual.
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Pyrodex® .44/.45 Caliber 30-Grain Pellets Item # IK-213724 can be used in any .44 or .45 black powder pistol which can handle 30 grain loads. Please check the owners manual to verify the max load the pistol can handle. Do not use rifle pellets in a revolver.
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only the 30gr. ones
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I Suggest Using Only Cabela's 451 or 454 Swaged
Black Powder ROUND Balls'! Pellets' tend to ruin the Barrel!. db.
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You can but the brass frame will loosen up and wear faster because the pellets are 30 grain loads, max for a brass frame 1851 is 25 grains
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First time shooting questions?

I now have the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver - starter kit - and cleaning kit on the way. First time shooting:
1. Should I fire percussion caps (#10) before loading the revolver?
2. 18 grams of Pyrodex P - Cabella's Lubed Black Powder Revolver Wads - Size 451 round balls that came with the starter kit.............Question - with the Lubed Wads, do I need to add the crisco or bore butter before firing?
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver, item # IK:210086, does not require having percussion caps being fired before loading for the first time. You also do not have to use bore butter if you are using lubed wads, but it is common to still use bore butter as an extra precaution.
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1. Yes, fire off caps first. This will blow out any assembly lube that might be present in the chambers.

2. No, I shoot mine with just the powder/ wad/ ball combination. If you want to put bore butter on just place it after the ball is seated.

Just be sure to wear glasses as you will be covered in butter LOL

Honestly you don't need it because the wads come prelubed.
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Clean the Entire Gun! Dry the Gun! Fire the caps' #10
Use Cabela's cleaning tools', they are the BEST!
If Caps do not push a small bit of pressure through the barrel take the pick that came with the Cleaning kit and Rotate the Cylinder to put the pick in the Nipples' and remove any Obstruction (PIPE Cleaners' work well too!)With Pyrodex Equal to ffg Make sure You Read The Cabela's Instructions' for Black powder Substitutes'!!!!. add the CORRECT AMMOUNT OF PYRODEX!!!!! Then The Dry Wool Wad, The 451 or 454 Ball, Seat the Ball until it stops' then the Damp sealing wad! don't put the sealing wad behind the ball! You will be pulling balls', because of fowling!
only use crisco if needed! db.
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I, and my fellow cowboy action shooters, usually fire caps prior to loading up for a match when we shoot Frontiersman category. It is simply to insure any residue from cleaning or lubricating is cleared from the flash hole.
If you use a lubricated wad it is not necessary to add Crisco or bore butter but you won't hurt anything by adding it. It will help keep the fouling soft and easier to clean out. I use hot soapy water to clean the revolver after each match. The residue just melts away. A light coat of oil after drying the gun thoroughly will insure your revolver is ready for its next use.
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if you use the revolver wads, you dont need to use grease on the chambers. But you can if you want to.
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Welcome to the club!! the first thing you want to do when the revolver comes in is to field strip it to wipe off all that oil it comes packaged in. Normally its good measure to shoot a round of caps to make sure the nipples are clear prior to loading but its not necessary if you cleaned it yourself and know they are clear imo. Normally these are loaded Powder>Ball>Grease, anything under 22 grains you will need a wad for sure i found out. i load mine with 25 grains of pyrodex P so i dont need to load wads. a really safe load would be 20 grains>Wonderwad>Ball>Grease, the wads dont really have that much lube on them they seemed too dry to me tbh so i used bore butter on top. btw when you use all your .451 balls go out and buy .454 instead they leave a nice ring of lead ensuring a very tight fit so that no gasses come in or escape reducing the chance of a chain fire.
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What is the proper powder charge for the 1851 Navy .44?

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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver is rated for a maximum load of 25 grains FFFg black powder or equivalent. Best accuracy will be found by using a reduced charge.
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24 gr Pyrodex P produced a noticeable kick, but gradually reducing to 18 grain did not reduce accuracy under 50 yards at all. Did add filler (cream of wheat, but i'm told corn meal is as good) to bring the ball forward and get good compression of the charge. Will try to back down to 15 gr to see if the accuracy is still OK since i'm only punching paper. Also may try Pyrodex RS since the local shops tend to stock it more often. Less complete burn - lower pressures, bigger flame...
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Bear in mind, this is a brass frame. It can be subjected to normal stress but do NOT exceed 25 grains of powder. Since it is black powder, it burns slower than modern smokeless powder so it is imperitive that you clean it a lot more often. It is easy to field strip and if you buy the ratcheting nipple wrench at Cabelas, easy to clean and lube the nipples. I use boiling hot water with a little dish soap to scrub things up and then lube the moving parts with bore butter when dry. Happy shooting.
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I use 20 grains and have great accuracy out to 25 yards. Most recommend between 18-22 grains. 25 grains is the max charge.
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15-30 grain pellets or loose Pyrodex powder.
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With a 44 Caliber ( 28g ) of powder = Pyrodex FFg !.
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I would use a max of 20-22 grains only. Brass frame revolvers should not be loaded to the max because of the soft nature of the brass. If you use 20-22 grains your gun should last for years to come. If you have a 36 cal brass revolver, then 15-18 is what I would use.
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