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PIETTA Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver

This compact version of the 1851 Confederate Navy revolver is perfect for reenactments and fast-draw competition and is a fun gun to shoot. It delivers a .44-caliber punch and can be reloaded in seconds by swapping out an optional spare cylinder. An attractive firearm, it features a blued 5-1/2" octagonal barrel; plain blued cylinder; durable and eye-catching walnut grips; and a brass trigger guard. Barrel length: 5-1/2". Overall length: 11-1/4". Weight: 2 lbs. 7 oz.
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What size lead ball do you use in this? If the pistol is .44 caliber, then shouldn'd the ball be a bit smaller for the patch that you are using?

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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver requires a .451 diameter round ball.
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I only have 3 months' experience with cap-&-ball revolvers, so if someone more knowledgeable answers take their advice. However, I'm using .451 lead balls in my .44-cal Confederate and they seem fine. From everything I've read and been told, the ball should be slightly larger than the cylinder to get a tight fit when loading. The excess gets scraped away when you seat the ball.
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use the .454 caliber round balls
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I don't use a patch. I use wonderwads and 454 balls.
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No patch is used. You should see a light lead ring when you seat the ball. .451 or .454.
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I use .451 and .454 on Pietta's. Uberti's like .457.
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Since this is a black powder pistol, do the same handgun laws apply to this as other handguns?

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Cabela’s makes no representations or provides no legal advice that any item is legal to purchase or possess in your location. Please check with your local authorities to confirm legality in your area.
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The answer is No. Black powder revolvers are classified as primitive firearms, the laws that apply to modern handguns on carrying (where and how) and concealment apply, but no license is required to carry a black powder revolver.
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There is no Federal Regluations but you would be wise to check your state laws. They vary from State to State.
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Each state is different. Most states don't classify this as a firearm. But some states require full licensing of this weapon.
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It's still a handgun, and is just as dangerous as more modern weapons. You should check with your local, state and federal laws.
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Yes it does. A gun is a gun no matter what. If you carry this gun for concealment, you still need a ccw certificate. All guns no matter what apply to other handguns. Be careful and do the right thing.
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is the barrel steel or brass?

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On the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver, item # IK-217166 the barrel and cylinder are blued steel. The only parts that are brass are the trigger guard, and frame that are visible in the photo on the webpage.
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The barrel and cylinder are steel.
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The barrel is steel. Only the frame is brass.
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its brass through and throught. They are soft metal and I suggest you to shoot this gun about 25 shots at a time. The gun will be hot and brass do deform a little at a certain tempurature.
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for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver do I need to use the round ball and can I use pellets?

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Item: IK-217166, Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver, uses a .451 projectile, and a maximum powder charge or equivalent of 25 grains of fffg powder.
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I use pellets on mine. No problem with it. Remember, gun powder and pellet are basically the same. They explode. The great thing about pellets, you do not have to worry about moisture. With powder you do need to keep it dry as much as posible.
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The brass powder flask that Cabelas sells throws about 21 grains of 777 powder substitute. The owners manual suggest you dont exceed 25 grains of BLACK powder. Since 777 is 15% hotter than black powder or Pyrodex FFFyou can use 15% less. I use 451 Hornady ball and a wonder wad between the powder and ball. Dont forget to lube the front of the clyinder with Crisco or bore butter before you cap it with #10 Remington caps. CCI caps are too tight in #10 and too loose in #11. Happy shooting
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Just try a .454 round ball, each model will perform differently depending on what it 'likes' for ammunition.
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You need to use the round balls with your Pietta 1851 Confederate Navy .44 caliber revolver.
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how to remove wedge

hi i just bought this gun and thought it was going to come with a tool to remove wedge. i have seen people use a brass nipple wrench in the past and cant seem to find them online. does anyone know how to remove them other then using a brass punch or a place i can get get a brass nipple wrench? thanks
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I use a small brass rod about 1.8 in diameter and place it on the top of top of the wedge just where the spring comes through. GENTLY tap it with the handle of a screwdriver or small mallet and it will pop the wedge loose enough so you can pull it out the left side of the frame.
Put some bore butter on it after cleaning and it will get easier with time. Option #2 grind off the pointy end of an old brass key and use it to drive out the wedge.
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I use a copper penny (1982 or earlier) I filled two notches on one side which allows the penny to penetrate a little further into the gun. It cost me one cent.
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I use a wooden mallet, if it needs a little bit more help through, get a wooden dowel and use that. After a few times of assembly, and disassemby, it will come out and go in a lot easier. I put a very thin coat of oil on mine too.
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Use a brass punch to push the wedge out. Make sure you have the gun resting on a wood plank, offset enough to allow room for the wedge to be removed. Use tape if you don't want any scratching in case you miss!!

As to the nipple wrench, they are available from most suppliers who sell BP pistols, or you can slot a socket...a size 3/16" long works perfectly for a Pietta. Cut the slot in the center of the scoket with a dremel slitter wheel to match the size of the nipples. It works great.
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What kind of caps should I be buying ?

This is my first cap and ball pistol and I'm unclear as to what type or size caps I should be using. From the previous comments, I understand that I don't use the wadding or patches ?
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Here are some of the specification for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver:

>Percussion cap size: Number 10
>Lead ball diameter: .451
>Maximum load: 25 grains FFFg black powder or equivalent
>Recommended load range for best accuracy is 20-25 grains.
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I found #10 CCI or Remington caps fit and work perfectly.
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I use either #11 or #10 caps, both work, for me the #10 fit on better. Yeah, use the wadding. measure out your powder, I use 22 grains of Triple7, put the lubed patch in the mouth of the chamber, and then put the ball on and ram it. You'll probably want to use either a short piece of pvc or aluminum pipe as a cheater on the loading lever, it's very short so it's harder to ram than the longer barreled versions. You will like this gun! I shoot mine every week!
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#11 caps. I load 18 grns of 777, 20 grns of cream of wheat, .451 round ball topped with "grease" candle wax, toilet seat wax, crisco. 1/3 each.
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Pyrodex Pistol Pellets

I just bought this pistol, to compliment my Pietta .44 1858 New Army (steel frame), which I've been shooting for awhile now, using Pyrodex Pistol Pellets (30 grain volume equivalent) without any trouble. The question is, can I use those same pellets in this .44 pistol, or is it too much for the brass frame to handle?

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The 30 grain pistol pellets would not be appropriate for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver Item # IK-217166 as the maximum load is 25 grains of FFFg black powder or equivalent
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The maximum Charge is listed at 25 grains. Believe me thats plenty hot.
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Yes you can. Will do no harm to the frame, unless you shoot it at the same time 1000 shots! Then it might do harm. Gun is made to enjoy it and give it time to cool off after 25 shots.
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The maximum Pyrodex load for this weapon is 28 grains. But, because of the brass frame, I limit it to 15-20 grains. The pellets put too much powder in. Too much powder in the brass frams can cause them to have hair line cracks. Which could eventually cause the gun to come apart in your hands one day while shooting. I would just use loose powder for these guns.
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is there a conversion cylinder for this gun?

if so where i can i get one?
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At this time Cabela's does not offer a conversion cylinder for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver, item number IK-217166.
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Conversion cylynders are not to be used with a brass frame revover , If you have the steel frame version , then , you can get a conversion cylynder . And some are available with a loading gate and you can also add an ejector assembly . If you get one with the loading gate , you will have to do some modification to the flash shield area of the frame to allow clearance to load the cartridges .
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You really don't want to use a conversion with this weapon. The brass is too soft and with the extreme pressures of standard cartridge ammo the brass could be stretched and cause the gun to not function anymore.
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Where is the pietta model 1851 .44 made?

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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver, Item # IK-217166, is manufactured in Italy.
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Italy.
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It is made in Italy.
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Italy
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I will need to purchase powder pellets and shot for my 50 cal percussion Kentuckey pistol. What would you suggest? Can I even use the pellets?

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The maximum loads for the Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver, Item: IK-217166, is 25 grains of FFFg powder. We do not carry pellet black powder in that small of charge at this time.
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yes you can use pellets. Best to buy is Hornady pellets and use conical bullets for target shooting. For hunting I would use the ball instead
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Muzzle Velocity

What should I expect for muzzle velocity out of this pistol? I've heard somewhere around 800 fps for the longer barrel version, but nothing for this one.
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Depends on the powder load you use and the type of ball or conical bullets used. There is a powder and bullet chart available online. You can use that to get your fps calculation easily by it. I use 1-50 grain pellets with the 245 grain ball and a yoked oiled pad. I get about 850 FPS with this kind of a load and the short barrel. I love this gun. I get bullseye with it at 25 yards.
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You can expect to lose about 50 fps with the shorter bbl.
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Can i use conical bullets?

I bought one of these about a year ago, and I have been using round balls, but i would like to know if i could safely use conical bullets in this firearm?
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The Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44-Caliber Revolver, item number IK-217166, can use the revolver conical bullet. The Lee Conical BP Revolver Bullet Mold Item, IK-214300 is but one example.
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